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Democrats Freaking Out Over Trump’s Voter Fraud Commission

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If you wanted to hear people complain about our American system of voting last December, all you had to do was find a Democrat. They would give you a mouthful about the popular vote, the Electoral College, the founding of the country, and the demise of democracy. If you found a particularly wacky liberal, you might even get some very interesting information about how Russian spies might have hacked into the voting systems themselves. Because, after all, what else could possibly explain why the polls got it so wrong?

Certainly, it couldn’t be that all of that “liberal media” stuff that conservatives have been talking about for years was…actually true?! No, no. It was the Russians.

Well, be that as it may, the liberal concern over the strength of our democracy has apparently vanished. Or, if it hasn’t vanished, it is at least badly misplaced. Why else would they be freaking out over President Trump’s announcement that he was forming a bipartisan commission to investigate and ensure the integrity of our elections in all 50 states?

The ACLU immediately threatened to file a lawsuit, claiming that “the American people should demand that elected officials and election administrators not participate in this phony commission.”

The New York Times somehow could not find anyone to quote who was in favor of the commission, but they did manage to find Nathaniel Persily, a political science professor at Stanford, who said, “There are problems in the registration system that don’t translate into fraud, there are sporadic and very rare instances of fraud, and voter impersonation fraud is the rarest of all.”

Meaning, of course, that the president’s decision to put Voter ID advocate Kris Kobach on the commission was a mistake and, more broadly, that there was really no such thing as fraudulent voting.

Now, we will assume that these liberals have no problem with taxpayer money being wasted on a frivolous effort – that is, after all, their stock in trade. No, they are worried that the commission WILL turn up some instances of voter fraud and prove that the Democratic Party’s argument – that it hardly ever, ever, ever happens – was a sham all along. And then there will be Voter ID laws across the country.

That’ll make it a lot harder to round up illegal immigrants, convicts, homeless junkies, and the deceased on Election Day 2018. And how will the Democrats take back the House without their base?


  • Whaledriver

    I can’t imagine why Democrats would be upset by such a commission. No Democrat has EVER done anything dishonest or demonstrative of lacking integrity. In fact, I think the commission should look into the miracle of my grandmother rising from the grave on Election Day and voting for Hillary (although in life, she detested the hate-filled Democrats).

    • GrizzMann

      This way they (Democrats) Can prove that Trump actually lost To sweet Hillary.

      • Bob Waas Sr.

        Well, that’s the chance we’re willing to take. Fraud is fraud no matter who is doing it.

        • greenlantern1

          Murder is murder!!
          Remember Benghazi?

      • Linda

        I think it will prove that Trump won the popular vote, because the majority of fraud is in California, New York and Illinois. Won’t that be a kick in Hillary’s pantsuit. I think we will all have a big laugh then. Can’t wait.

      • Snakebait511

        That’s only if the Commission takes a healthy bride from Soros. Otherwise it’ll be revealed that two million illegals or more, voted for demonic bitch Clinton under the king of sodomites Obamas plan to steal the election.

        • Carl_in_California

          Maybe you need to use a snake bite kit… I think you’re hallucinating 😎😎😎 Cheers!

          • Snakebait511

            You’re obviously on the other side. Bottom line, WE WON! SUCK IT UP CHEESEBALL. We’ll wait until the shit hits the fan then see how long it takes you to hide your liberal ass.

        • Carl_in_California

          it’s funny the way you express your ideas with such anger and vitriol… Do you talk this way to people on the street? My experience is that people that talk this way are politely ignored by others… it’s kind of the same way online. 😎😎😎 Cheers!

          • Snakebait511

            The liberals avoid me. I display my love for my country, my Constitution and support for our President openly. It astounds me that ANYBODY is so stupid to be so eager to support a communist agenda! You could tell when obummer was lying….his lips were moving. Clinton is the same way. She’s running her mouth, as is obummer, to all these financial institutions for astronomical fees, who are too stupid to understand once their agenda comes to fruition , they’ll be going broke because their money will be meted out under the wealth distribution program throughout the world. It’s called COMMUNISM, in other words “bondage”. The NWO.

            IN 1963 Congress devised a list of 45 Goals for a communist takeover of the United States. The majority of these goals have been met. Google it and read it. I’m tired of the liberal crying and whining because bitch Hillary lost. Millions of weren’t happy when the sodomite Obama won two terms, undoubtedly through a corrupt voting system, but we survived. One day soon hell is going bust loose and we’ll be in another civil war. The patriots vs the libtards. I’ll see you there!

      • Patricia T.

        Don’t hold your breath.

      • Carl_in_California

        Nope. Just prove that Trump and his campaign was working with a foreign nation to undermine our election… That’s treason if you’re wondering…

        • GrizzMann

          BTW, Trump is not under investigation, at least that is what a top Democrat and Comey said.

          • Carl_in_California

            But I thought you didn’t BELIEVE top Democrats or Comey? Oops…

          • GrizzMann

            Who does believe Democrats? Only other Democrats.

    • Carl_in_California

      Happy to hear that your family beheld the spectacle of bonafide miracle… Sorry to hear that your mother passed away though. Cheers!

      • Charlene Melancon

        Piss off Carl!

      • Beenthere43

        George Soros wants to know where to send your check!

    • pmbalele

      Trump should avoid Repubs and TEA parties. These are the ones want Trump Impeached; and I do not know for what. Today Trump said he had never heard or read a president treated so badly by the press and Republicans. Repubs and TPs do not want Trump to breathe fresh air nor have friends. Just the guy talked with Russians, should he be impeached? I know he has family internal problems and especially having Ivanka as VP. This is going to be a mess when Melania and Barron move in the WH next month. Please give Trump a break for he has too many problems now. I love Trump for expanding Obamacare. That is why I want him to stay in the WH for the next 31/2 years to work on expanding Obamacare. Leave him alone!

      • John W.H.

        You are so full of shit your eyes are turning brown !!

      • Peter Smith

        “bmbalele” is just having another oral bowel movement. Man, and does ever stink …….

    • teachersaide

      KUDOS! Thank you, you made me laugh!

      • Carl_in_California

        Kudos bars are delicious! Can I have one too? 😎😎😎 Cheers!

    • AL

      Most demokkkrats are voting from Hell along with the head of the demoCRAP LEADER SATAN

      • greenlantern1

        So says Trump!
        So says Jerry Falwell jr.!
        So says Pat Robertson!
        So says Ann Coulter!

      • Carl_in_California

        Hey Al, better run a diagnostic on your Spellcheck… it’s making lots of mistakes 😎😎😎 Cheers

    • Lexus RX

      Yes that should definitely be checked out. Maybe some of my deceased relatives also voted. They were also Republicans.

    • Craig Anderson

      LOL

    • greenlantern1

      My mother passed away just before the election.
      She always remained a REPUBLICAN!
      I learned my lesson from Nixon!
      I bolted!
      In the primaries; I loved to tease mom by saying that I voted for Hillary while she couldn’t!
      How is Trump counting her vote??

  • My country

    I for one am glad to see this happen .With Soros owning half the voter machines and dead people not to mention the illegals being allowed to vote .Especially since they are not a legal citizen and should not be afforded the right to vote no more than welfare or any other freebie they get . Our elections are for legal Americans who have the right to say what happens.Not those who enter illegally.A good example of how a state can be ruined by illegal voting is California. Illegals are responsible for the democrats who give them rights they are not entitled too staying in office .And this gross miscarriage of justice has taken the say about what they live under from the legal citizens of that state and have kept it in the hands of illegals . All for the simple purpose of stealing from taxpayers .

    • TadhgMcLir

      Amen!

      • Carl_in_California

        I’m guessing you don’t actually live in California… sounds like you’re glad about it and, guess what, so are we who actually live here in California! It’s a “win-win.” 😎😎😎 Cheers!

        • TadhgMcLir

          Carl,
          I don’t and am glad. However, I am also glad you like it. That means neither one of us would move to the other’s state and try to change it. We are where we should be.

          • Carl_in_California

            Agreed…

        • Lawrence Passmore

          and another idiot has spoken

        • Craig Anderson

          I’ve lived in states like Calif., like MN, Wis, MI and left as soon as I could I was born and raised in MN and was sorry to see happen late. If you live in Calif. I pity you if you don’t see what you are doing, not only to you but the country.
          Watch your taxes going up on everything you have and where is it going to, not to something that helps you, but to those that demanding it as your governor keeps giving, but once he can give no more those same demanders will be at your door taking. Your days of ever being able to take a walk in he park at night are over, your gatherings are forever at risk of mass destruction, by some psychotic radical and you can congratulate yourselves for nesting, feeding him in your own backyard. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/27928f38b79dedfc9407dd21ed18734d043f8a745abfc10e47b346d54260943b.jpg

    • Carl_in_California

      Quick! Changing the subject there aren’t you… Must be kinda hard for you to type this stuff without laughing out loud! You MUST be joking… Cheers!

      • My country

        No you aren’t funny and I can see why California is in trouble .You most certainly have lost your mind and can’t find it . Quick quick find it oops I am sorry you missed the boat . I guess you are happy since you drink from the same cooler that the insane people do . I would rather be considered a right winger than a blowhard ignorant messed up tinkerbell who needs a playpen ! And no most Californians are not happy with the communist government they have .Apparently you don’t read enough or know your own state .And you must be an illegal !

        • Craig Anderson

          I live in many states and have worked with and for many Californians, but have found they do seam to have a different frame of mind as far as how to run the nation, but keeping trying to give it away just doesn’t sound right, well smart anyhow.

      • curmudgeon VN Veteran

        You sound like a boot licking idiot.

        • Carl_in_California

          How did you know that I love boots? 😎😎😎 Cheers!

      • John W.H.

        Carl how many times have you voted for Barbra Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Nancy Pelosi, and Maxine Waters ?? The biggest douchebags in the Congress, It must fill you with pride knowing these idiots are the best California can find to represent you liberal commies ??

      • Carolyn McK

        Typical liberal who doesn’t know what common sense is.

        • teachersaide

          Common sense is anathema to ultra-liberals, especially those from California, NYC, Chicago, Boston, DC, et al.

          • Carl_in_California

            Common sense? What’s that? I live in California, so–as you say–I’ve never heard of such a thing… 😎😎😎Cheers!

        • Carl_in_California

          Please… tell me more! 😎😎😎Cheers!

    • Carl_in_California

      Who is Soros? Sorry…. I guess I don’t read enough stuff that is full of code words and names of people that Right wingers are always complaining about… By the way, the vast majority of Californians are quite happy with the government we have here in our state… (check out my pen-name if you are wondering) Cheers!

      • ch

        Figures someone happy with the government in california doesn’t know who soros is. Look him up, he is evil and has a warrant out for his arrest from 4 different governments. Hoping Russia has an agent pay him a visit in the middle of the night

        • Carl_in_California

          Ha! Well… You must mean GEORGE Soros. Apparently you don’t like Billionaires who get involved in politics. Ever heard of the Koch brothers? Successful, rich businessmen who throw their money around in politics… Are you hoping that they get assassinated or kidnapped too? Seems like a strange thing to hope for… 😎😎😎 Cheers!

          • ch

            the Koch brothers don’t have warrants out for their arrests for destroying countries and sellng their own people to the Nazi’s. The man needs to serve time for his crimes against humanity. There is a difference between the two, but progressives can’t reason.

          • Lawrence Passmore

            carl from Queerfornia which one of you is the wife you or george

      • sandraleesmith46

        The very fact that you don’t know who George Soros is should automatically disqualify you from voting as ILL INFORMED and ineligible on those grounds.

        • Carl_in_California

          Please tell me more about why I should be “automatically disqualified” from voting… when you’re done, you’ll have your justification for repressive voter suppression laws that the GOP is so eager to extend and expand all across our country… It’s a “win-win” for you! 😎😎😎 Cheers!!!

          • sandraleesmith46

            Because you’re ill-informed and to cast a wise vote you need to BE informed about the issues and persons under consideration! There are NO voter suppression laws, we still allow ingnoramus’ to vote! What there are, are efforts to restrict that to those who are CITIZENS only!

      • Beenthere43

        Soros is the Na*i, anti-American who pays you to write these stupid comments.

      • Carolyn McK

        No they aren’t. I have heard from a lot of them. The only ones ok with it are you idiots. And all the illegals and criminals and Hollywood elitists who have fried their brains with drugs and their egos. Even the dead people’s names you used to win CA are probably ready to haunt you. Ever heard of Sodom and Gommorah? How long can you tread water?

        • Carl_in_California

          I’ve treaded water for up to an hour without a BC when I first learned to scuba dive back in 1977… why do you ask?

      • Jerry

        Carl, 30 or 40 people are not a majority, the illegals shouldn’t have a say, you kick out the illegals you maybe could find the 30 to 40 people

      • Yul bolsun

        Sorry Carl you’re wrong. Most of my family have moved out of California. And ask the people of Seattle if they were born there. If it wasn’t for the weather

      • Valerie Iserman

        The “vast majority” of Californians are those those that you perceive who agree with you, Carl. You’re so insulated in your fantasy-filled club, you’re not even aware that there is a movement by northern Californians to secede from the southern part of the state. You, like so many others, are being made a fool of. When reality hits you all in the face, your head will be spinning, and you’ll be wondering, “What the hell happened?” Then, Mr. Smug, your misinformed and ignorant rhetoric won’t do you any good. You and the rest of the sheep will fall into a mud hole that’s too deep for you to climb out. You espouse compassion and love and inclusiveness, but all of you reserve those traits only for those who agree with you.

    • Craig Anderson

      Your right but the Dem had piled their little pet immigrants into these areas just so they can get this kind voting and petition power for the reaction all in a state that has a gets a lot of the nation’s news turned towards it anyway. Obama jammed these immigrants into the country as fast as he could not making no attempt to understand or intermingle the two cultural differences, but the rest of the country are just now starting to get the message of just what.
      Then allowing these people that just got here the right to vote is a utter slap in the face of not only every citizen in this country, but a double for every Vet that ever defended this great land. Giving them aby of the right that the Constitution provides is a pure kick in the nuts, for now they think they can collect from a regular American for the same frivolous law suits that the Clintons were good for. Their kids are roaming our streets committing gang rapes and getting out of them by saying it’s in their religion. Well I have a religion too and it’s called. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d6297401e0f380b392db5f775ea90551c8a838c4c50d5c30f4a7e5726b93c794.jpg

    • greenlantern1

      Ever read the autobiography, NEVER AGAIN, by Attorney-General John Ashcroft?
      He, not Eric Holder, ordered the rescue of illegals!!

      • My country

        I didn’t say one word about Eric Holder but while you are on the subject he was responsible for the guns that were used on many people including Mexicans Fast and Furious was his deal . So since he was the DOJ no consequences!

        • greenlantern1

          There was NO Fast and Furious TRIAL!
          Oliver North was CONVICTED of selling arms to Ayatollah Khomeini!
          Holder is guilty until proven innocent?

          • My country

            No he wasn’t brought to trial . Because he would not bring charges on himself being the DOJ head . He was and the evidence was given .Like Hillary she too will never be brought to justice . Apparently you haven t lived long enough or don’t want to know the truth . Stop acting like a know it all ! Maybe some other people know more than you .

          • greenlantern1

            John Mitchell was the head of the DOJ!
            He was brought to trial and convicted!
            Perfectly clear?

    • Snakebait511

      That’s why the communists in the government get backing from the corrupt judicial system with the claim that voter ID laws are racist. How much more are the communists going to push the patriots before civil war breaks out? It’s getting sickening more and more every day. Their whole agenda is based on nothing but lies.

    • Lawrence Passmore

      no truer words were never spoken

      • Carl_in_California

        Except, of course, that these words are not true.

        • Carl_in_California

          But it’s okay… Fiction is a perfectly valid literary genre and lots of people love fiction. 😎😎😎 Cheers!

        • My country

          They are true ! And if they were not you would not be protesting like you are . Which tells the rest of us you are illegal .I know for a fact that Californians are not happy they are always in the news . Their taxes have been going for every freebie that government can give out at the expense of their people .

          • Carl_in_California

            So… if we DON’T correct the misinformation, you’ll think that means it must be true. But if we DO correct the misinformation THAT means we are protesting too much and is evidence that it must be true… That’s a neat trick. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. MAYBE the truth is that it’s all in your heads… doesn’t have ANYTHING to with reality or anything that’s happening in the world at all… Or at least very, very little. 😎😎😎Cheers!

  • VirgoVince

    Of course, the dumocruds would oppose the commission, they oppose EVERYthing RIGHT, they ARE
    still in DENIAL and they ARE afraid of being EXPOSED for their CRIMINAL activities!!

    • Jr1776

      Communists trying to take over so we can be like Venezuela

      • Carl_in_California

        I bet you are so much fun at parties! Cheers!

    • Carl_in_California

      Must be tough to be so wrong all the time (about everything)… Cheers!

      • sandraleesmith46

        Well, YOU would know; being as how you ARE!

      • John W.H.

        Tell us about it numb nuts!! The more you talk the stupider you sound !! It must really hurt to be so ignorant !!

        • Carl_in_California

          Hi John. Tell you about what? Why are you so concerned with my nuts? I am pleased to see that you ARE concerned about my health. Do you support the ACA? 😎😎😎 Cheers!

      • Patricia T.

        After reading your childish comments, Carl, it is obvious you are a young liberal who didn’t pay attention in school. You can’t offer any intelligent comments to a discussion so you spend your time belittling people and thinking you’re witty. You fit right in with the California snowflakes who try to intimidate anyone who doesn’t think like they do.

        • Carl_in_California

          Hi Patricia! What would you like me to comment on intelligently? I’ll be happy to oblige…

        • Carl_in_California

          Nice to be thought of as young… I’m 58… Paid a fair amount of attention in class… My wife and I put each other through college. She’s a nurse, I’m a teacher. Earned two degrees and two masters… Filled up two passports traveling all over the world when I worked for Pan Am back in the 70’s and 80’s… have raised four kids and been married (to my one-and-only wife) for 32 years. Became a public school teacher in the 90’s I’m an Elder in my church, been an Assistant Scoutmaster, an AYSO coach and referee. Our youngest daughter (19 years old) is severely disabled and my wife and I are her primary caregivers… If all of my experiences make me a “Snowflake” (whatever that’s supposed to mean) then so-be-it… I would be surprised if anyone who actually knows me thought I was in anyway “intimidating.” Are “snowflakes” intimidating in your experience? Unless, of course, you mean perhaps “intellectually intimidating.” I plead “guilty” to paying attention and expecting that others do the same… 😎😎😎 Cheers!

  • Dan Meyer

    What a mess. OUR one and only real freedom, the vote, is now suspect, thanks to elites like the Clinton clan and their enablers protecting them at all costs! If every Bush/Cheney, Clinton/Gore, Obama, Lynch, Holder, “protector” were prosecuted, there would be no one left in WADC!
    God help US!

  • Daniel F. Melton

    If the election of al franken to the senate isn’t one of the most blatant indicators that vote fraud skews elections, what will it take to convince people it exists?
    Is it strange that democrats are the overwhelming beneficiaries of such chicanery?
    Any wonder that democrats are aghast that there will be an investigation of vote fraud?

    • Nancy Anderson

      Daniel, I live in MN and Al Franken being a Senator just isn’t right. After he was voted in if you talked to several people you couldn’t find anyone who voted for him. Now, isn’t that a wonder. I know of a few votes, (my family and myself) that really did not vote for him. But there he is anyway.

      • Joe Pewter

        Mn uses voting machine that use a programable ‘Targeting” card..stating names of candidates change every election…which is true..Mn Sec State claims these programable cards are to be left intact for 22mths till reused at next election..Washington County Mn has deleted them in a few days after elections..Sec of state says nothing but uh da we dont investigate..this is going to the Trump voter fraud commission..

      • Carl_in_California

        Sounds like you must be in the minority in Minnesota… Cheers!

        • Nancy Anderson

          We are., thanks for the Cheers. There are still some people who live here who have a brain and use it. 😉

          • Carl_in_California

            Same as here in California… it’s fun to use our brains! If you lived nearby I’d love to meet for coffee and a lively discussion… sadly, these typed messages are not a good substitute. 😎😎😎 Cheers!

        • Daniel F. Melton

          Seven of the eighty seven counties in Minnesota went for hillary. 46.9-45.4 For some reason this swung the state to democrat. Perhaps because all the welfare socialists congregate in those areas. Those of us that work have the biggest part of the state.

          http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/minnesota/

          • Nancy Anderson

            What they need is a voter card LIKE a drivers license that you get at a voter registration licensing dept., just like drivers licenses. It should be embossed with the state seal or something like they are doing with the new money. You should have to be a citizen(proven) and of age to get the card and not be able to vote without it. Of course, they would probably hand them out on street corners in the cities. It’s a shame what has happened to this country.

          • Daniel F. Melton

            Proof of citizenship to have such a card and anybody caught in violation deported without a hearing, to north korea.

          • Julia Ainsworth

            We have a card with the state seal. If we move we have to get a new card. We still have to show our cards to people we have known all of their lives just to vote because that is what the law says we must do.

        • Charlene Melancon

          Hey Carl the troll, go back to your basement!

      • sandraleesmith46

        We have that problem with McCain down here in AZ too.

      • Daniel F. Melton

        Amazing how they kept “finding” votes to be included with every recount, and sec state ritchie certified every one (for franken).

    • Carl_in_California

      I’m guessing you aren’t even from Minnesota… Am I right? Cheers!

      • sandraleesmith46

        No, you would be WRONG; I happen to know he IS in MN and has been for years.

      • Daniel F. Melton

        I’ve been living in lakes country since 1993.
        http://www.lakecountryscenicbyway.com/maps/

      • Charlene Melancon

        Hey Carl, you basement troll! Piss off!

    • Carl_in_California

      Having the Republicans run an effort to find election fraud is the very definition of having the foxes guard the hen house… 😎😎😎 Cheers!

  • Terry

    This is like asking the kid with icing all over there face if they eat the cake . If they don’t have icing on the face what are they afraid of ?

  • Jr1776

    Good let them who cares ! Screw them !

  • ibcyn

    It’s about time.

  • got my licence

    I believe that if there was no voter fraud the democrats would never win.

    • Carl_in_California

      You know what? I believe that you believe that… Cheers!

      • Charlene Melancon

        Shut up you little troll!

      • Jerry

        Wisconsin for example was always democratic, prior to the last election, 300,000 illegal voters were purged from the roles, President Trump won that state by 23,000 votes, let’s just think where it would have gone without the illegal voters purge

  • charles17121

    The FACT that state of California gives state drivers licensees to non-US Citizens should just about say it all that millions of illegals voted in 2016 presidential election and is the only reason why Hillary Rotten Clinton won the popular vote ! Add To that there is a video out with the fraud and usurper barack hussein obama telling illegals they would not prosecuted for voting in the 2016 presidential election .

    • kbmiller

      Charles, how can I pull up that video?

      • GGD

        Obama was on the Hispanic television station and at the time a copy of the interview was on facebook.

        • kbmiller

          Thanks, and there are still FOOLS out there that don’t believe there’s voter fraud. I’m from Chicago, I know.

          • bttrap

            that is so true I think chicago has the most crooked politicans in the whole country and it goesn all the way to springfield

          • pappy450

            I’m from N.Y. and our “Corrupt elite scumocrats and rinos” in government not only allowed it, but ENCOURAGED illegals voting. deblasio and cuomo encouraged illegal voting on LIVE TV.
            (they same way OSCUMBAG did) IF the illegals are stopped from voting and all the “dead people”, “multiple voters”, and soros “voting machines” are taken out of service , the SCUMOCRATS may NEVER win an election again. (and they know it) THAT is why they fight so hard to STOP anyone from “investigating” by spouting that it “disenfranchise” minorities, which is scumocrat BS. Those “minorities” seem to be able to get their WELFARE. MEDICAID, and EBT cards after presenting forms of PHOTO ID. (which is the ONLY way to get anything today.) But do not “need it” or hide this when voting? Give me a break.

      • ch
        • kbmiller

          Thanks

        • John W.H.

          How do you think the little brown clown got elected twice ? Does anyone thing voter fraud may have played a part in Ba-rack Who-is-insane Obama being elected twice ?

        • Beenthere43

          Also check this video it has more explanation of BO’s comments.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yf4FqcVK_0

    • Linda

      I remember Obama saying that. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing.

      • Carl_in_California

        You were right the first time. Don’t believe it…

    • Carl_in_California

      There’s also a video out that shows that Adolph Hitler survived the war and is living in Bolivia… Cheers!

      • kbmiller

        Take off your tin foil hat and go back to sleep.

      • Charlene Melancon

        Piss off troll!

      • John W.H.

        Idiot

      • Jerry

        I thought it was California and he is going by his gay lovers name Carl

        • Carl_in_California

          You have a vivid imagination Jerry… I wonder where you get such ideas? 😎😎😎 Cheers!

  • charles17121

    Take away voter fraud and the Socialist ” Democrats ” in this country would never win another election !

  • Hunter

    No convicted felons sorry you have given up you rights when you took someone else’s​ rights away,

  • Thomjeff

    If it wasn’t for voter fraud how do people like pelosi,boxer,dingy harry, and so many others stay in office so long. Who in thier right mind would vote for these people. Never mind, I forgot, (Liberals).

  • TEA

    Demo’ Rats as a party have become a soulless, failed and worthless bunch of political hacks! OK, Lunch anyone?

  • Larry Brule

    MOST COMMON SENSE IDEA EVER! KEEPS OUR ELECTIONS HONEST, NOT TILTED TO THE DIMOCRATIC BASE, ILLEGAL ALIENS

    • albany le

      I believe that you must show your ID in order to vote. We must do this to have an accurate count.

      • Bob Waas Sr.

        Not really. The Democrats and the ACLU cry foul whenever a state tries to tighten up the voting process. They claim their constituents (the minorities) are not competent enough to be able to get a photo id. What a racist thing to say.

        • Nancy Anderson

          If they aren’t competent enough to get a photo I.D., then what in the world makes them think they are competent enough to VOTE???? I agree with you. We need to get rid of the ACLU. There is incompetence personified.

          • sandraleesmith46

            I disagree; the ACLU isn’t incompetent. What they are is EVIL-minded and anti- American. Their actions are the OPPOSITE of what their name would indicate; they are ANTI- Americans civil liberties; and pro-totalitarian control.

          • kbmiller

            Say man, we bee’s to stoopid ta get usns a ID fum da dapahtmen o votin.

        • kbmiller

          Thay man, wes be to thtupid 2 gets usns a votin ID, n lathy to.

          • Bob Waas Sr.

            What?

          • kbmiller

            That’s Ebonics, the ,”Th” is for the ,”S” “Thay” is “Say” “Thtupid” is “Stupid”.

          • bttrap

            wow

          • bttrap

            sounds like he got his mouth wired shut

        • sandraleesmith46

          They manage to get them easily enough to get on welfare! End of discussion.

          • teachersaide

            Well said! And, those ID’s that enable people to get welfare, include MANY illegal aliens. 51% of ALL illegal aliens are getting some form of welfare &/or FREE healthcare, including organ transplants!

          • sandraleesmith46

            Yes, they do, and they DO that by identity theft and fraud; which also needs to be stopped.

      • Fon Evetts

        I have always had to show ID to vote. All citizens should have to.

        • Carl_in_California

          What about non-citizens? Cheers!

          • sandraleesmith46

            They aren’t eligible to vote at all, so no ID needed.

          • Charlene Melancon

            Carl you dingbag troll. Piss off!

          • Jerry

            They, by law are not legal to vote

      • John W.H.

        You damn well have to show a photo I.D. in my State and we are the reddest of the red states !! democRATS haven’t been in charge for the last 15 years at least !!

        • Carl_in_California

          Which state is that? I hope it’s not Kansas… Sam Brownback drank the Republican koolaid and completely tanked their economy… I’m glad you are happy with your state government. I’m happy with mine here in California. 😎😎😎 Cheers!

  • silver fox

    that’s the dims cant steal

  • silver fox

    aclu can kiss my ass period

  • SNL SUCKS

    If anyone can find voter fraud it’s Kris Kobach. He is from Kansas and I live in Missouri and that guy is awesome. He can just smell wrongdoing in elections and is very good at what he does.

  • Jesustheonlyway

    The Democrats fear being found out at just how much they have corrupted the voting system!

    • Carl_in_California

      Generally speaking, when a person writes a post that is essentially expressing what OTHER people are thinking or feeling, the post is not really saying anything factual… State what you think or feel–in the end it’s really the only thing you can really know.

  • Nancy Anderson

    Gee the Democrats are upset. What else is new? They live in a perpetual state of upset and anxious. Them and the ACLU. THAT is one thing that I would love see go the way of the dinosaurs. One of the worse things to ever ruin America is the ACLU. They don’t care about America and the average citizen. They only care about money and power. Just like the Democratic politicians. It’s all in the wallet for them. Money and power. I would gladly whip out my license to vote. Only the ones who have something to worry about would be against that.

  • Kim Chul Soo

    Great news. It’s gonna be a bitch getting demorat hands caught in the cookie jar. Way past due.

  • Timothy Thompson

    Voter fraud is real we all know it. Liberals have let everyone and anyone come into our country anyway they can and truely know that those people are their base voters along with dead people. Al Franken won an election by somehow a catch of votes after weeks of recounts against his Republican opponent. Voter ID law is the only way to make sure that all votes cast will be from live legally registered voters. Thanks Donald.

  • kbmiller

    I find it ironic that the political party which usurped this theory, “The definition of democracy is, Government by the people through fairly elected representatives”, for their name, the Democrat Party,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, DOES NOT WANT FAIR ELECTIONS. Isn’t it ALWAYS the guilty thief who doesn’t want his home searched and the guilty murderer who refuses to give DNA samples? By logical analysis, one would come to the conclusion that, if there’s no fraud or crime, those being accused should be HAPPY to have it proved.

    • Carl_in_California

      Kbmiller: Sounds perfectly reasonable… but remember that this was the same reasoning that Stalin’s NKVD and Hitler’s Gestapo utilized… We have a Constitution and Bill
      Of Rights that are designed to PREVENT the usurpation of our liberties. Yes. “Liberals” talk this way too… In fact, our Constitution is basically a “liberal” concept. Protecting the rights of individuals.

  • Joe Pewter

    voter fraud is definately happening in Washington County Minnesota..its getting reported to Trump voter fraud commission…f/ckin GOT IT PUNKS

  • rick meek

    Go Trump Go —- Next — go after the ACLU and I’ll help you in any way…..

  • rick meek

    Hmmm – Voter ID – Voter Fraud – Voter Registration – and the ACLU opposes it because they and the dems treason will be revealed…..

  • Cadfael

    A National Voter Fraud Investigation is looooooooooong overdue! The ACORN doesn’t drop far from the DNC!

  • Estell Newton

    Voter id should be required. Everybody–at least most people–have some form of photo id anyway so why don’t people want to show it? Simple. They won’t be able to vote more than once and illegals and dead people won’t be able to vote. Besides, these are numerous other circumstances where photo id is required and nobody is raising a stink about that. Voting should go under the same rules. After all it’s our country that will suffer the harm from non legals voting.

  • george briar

    this is ridiculous and outrageous screamed Elmer fud and bugs bunny today that have been voting democrat for years. They went on to say how can our hero democrats get elected without our votes and the votes of the rest of the cartoon characters? Cartoon world and grave yards across the country our mad. Not being able to vote unless you can prove your real and alive is nonsense they claimed. Illegals were also out raged.

  • Patriot47

    GOOD! Let your liberal heads explode. I’ll volunteer to hose down some of the mess. Anyone else?

  • sandraleesmith46

    What the Dems fear is LOSING their illegal voting base! They depend on illegal voters to win elections. In NO other nation are non-citizens allowed to vote in any elections and neither should they be in this nation!

  • Dexter L. Wilson

    Agreed it is time that this happened, considering the findings of the Project Veritas and Judicial Watch of illegal voters in the 100’s of thousands. Need to remove several Appellate Justices for impeding government function and preventing a proper method of weeding out illegal voters. It is called misbehavior and yes Judges can be impeached for such because they are not God over the Constitution, they are supposed to follow the Constitution and not amend it as they see fit.

    • bttrap

      we also need term limits for these crooked democrap judges

      • Dexter L. Wilson

        For judges, I am not in a hurry to get rid of Ted Cruz, John Cornyn, Mac Thornberry etc. I do agree with you that since judges are appointed it probably is a good idea to give them a 10 year term and that is the end, then another judge is appointed. You are right after thinking about it. That way they will not get delusions of grandeur.

  • Ron

    Sure the dems are freaking out. There goes 3 to 5 million illegal dem votes!

    • Libs R Loons

      If you want the REAL number, it’s closer to 40 million, once you count the 7 million or so Muslim illegals that Obama and Holder snuck into our country while the media was focused on latino illegals-only.

  • kassa1

    Before the election some communist a.k.a. Democrat operatives were caught rigging and they had made the comment that they been ringing elections for 50 years. The only people who do not want variety is the ones were corrupting the elections and have no way to win without doing that. Even Mexico makes you use a voter ID. Show me in the constitution where it says we must not use voter IDs for people to vote and I’ll show you all A Marxist liar.

  • curmudgeon VN Veteran

    The RAT party is the master of voter fraud. You hear the term oter fraud and it runs about 99 to 1 RAT to Pubbie and the allegations against the pubbies never hold water. How could anyone ever be surprised at the democRAT-ICKs being scared of this?

  • AL ELLIS

    Of course they’re freaking out, they will lose every election from now on without their voter fraud.

  • John Adams

    We need Voter ID with photo and thumb print that would show up on all computers at all polling places when the person enters the polls

  • sox83cubs84

    Of course the Communist Democraps are upset. Without cheating, the Dems would be lucky to win 10% of all elections nationwide.

  • John W.H.

    The ACLU wants to be the first to threaten a law suit ? The All Communist Lawyers Union should set down and shut the fuck up. They are nothing but scum bags, and assholes. Any person that wants to vote should damn well have a voter ID card and a photo I.D. card, and if they are to stupid to not have proper Identification, they should not be able to vote in any election !! Never in a million years should douchebag judges with life time appointments be allowed to interfere in any election by letting any one vote, no matter how long he/she or it has been in prison, or how long he/she or it has been in this country illegally, or how long he/she or it has been dead !!

  • papa doug

    They should be, they are terrified of the indictments to follow!

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    IRENE GROOMS Its another day here in the good old (U.S. A. )

  • Floyd

    We could use a scanner like they use at a lot of Federal buildings. You put you hand inside and if you clear you are given a badge. To go in and work. We could have the same thing for voters. Just think NO MORE DEAD VOTERS. But you would still have demoKKKrats that are NOT SMART ENOUGH TO TIE A SHOE LACE

  • Nina Ferguson

    This has been going on too long and it needs to stop. The voting machine in Chicago is one of the worst for being crooked. Even BHO acknowledged that.

    • Libs R Loons

      Since ACORN was originated in Chicago (founded by Obama’s terrorist mentor Bill Ayers), voter fraud became so refined that ACORN registered Mickey Mouse and all his Disney friends to vote democrat just to test the system, and their votes made it through and were counted.

  • Carolyn McK

    It’s about time! I agree with this action. The liberals can’t stand the fact that they have lost control. We need to make sure that no matter what they do, we will continue to fight. And vote them out of our government so we can drain the swamp. I for one, am tired of being their bank.

  • capa760

    It amazes me to see, hear and tolerate the Democrats cry and complain about this last election, when America’s citizens had to realize that the 2012 Most Corrupt Cheating Presidential Election was illegally pulled against the HONEST American Citizens by the most corrupt Communist false candidate, The Democratic National Committee, and the biggest traitor to his family and friends. George Soros sold out his family, relatives, and his nationality to help Adolph Hitler’s genocide of God’s Jewish People, while He helped steal the assets for himself and Hitler’s Regime. We complained to any Legal Group, Judicial Group, Federal Election Commission to VOID THE CORRUPT ELECTION, jail the Precinct Heads and those who smuggled fake ballots into the election,those who let voters, who voted many ballots of treason, and terminate those who were shredding the ballots of the real capable candidate of morality. and proven citizenship. Obama’s vivid treason and the broken Oath of Office as President, should have been immediately REMOVED by every LEGAL CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHO IS PATRIOTIC AND LOYAL TO OUR GREATEST COUNTRY. So far we have seen, heard the TREASON and THREATS spat out by America’s Democrats and so called patriotic American Citizens. Thank God, we grew up with the majority of neighbors, relatives and friends in America who never behaved as the crying,name-calling,and threatening to kill the President, as these ill behaved assets of Obama’s Treason to America.

  • Barbedwire

    It’s about time. My “vote” is very valuable to me, and it needs to have equal power to that of any other citizen’s vote. The only way to do it, is to make sure we do not have fraudulent voters. Yes, put some people in charge of this, so that by the next vote in 2018 – we can be assured of the accuracy. Another good idea from Mr. Trump, and action.

  • Edgar Duvall

    I would be the cheapest voter fraud investigator in the US. While we will pay millions to check the records we will still not be certain. We need honest individuals who want fair elections. We need people who will go door to door checking for registered voters. We could take pictures, get signatures, get finger prints, what ever. As we get the information it could be down loaded instantaneously. No way for fraud.

    • Allen Shaw

      The problem is each district has its own system. Voter fraud, if there is any is a local matter. As far as I know every one votes in their own precinct. The people working in the precinct know the people, if not they need smaller precincts.

  • Albedamned!

    Libtards are getting worried, sending out the smokescreens and distractions.

  • VirgoVince

    Because they KNOW they WILL be EXPOSED FOR their CRIMES, AS THE PERPS!!

  • Camille Gilliam

    They will find plenty of problems!

  • rick meek

    Of course they’re freaking out —– their livelyhood depends on illegals and voter fraud…..

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  • Don Taylor

    the democratic party , the new AMERICAN SOCIALIST NAZI PARTY ?

  • jim

    greatest thing to happen to our voting system since the 1800s

  • greenlantern1

    Remember Benghazi?
    What did Putin know?
    When did he know it?
    What did he tell Trump?
    The party of butterfly ballots, hanging chad, stormed recount centers and WATERGATE is complaing of rigged elections?

  • BigC

    Trump has turned on the light and all the Dimocrap cockroaches are scurrying for cover and it’s LONG overdue!!!

  • david goodman

    if there isn’t fraud why are you demon-crats giving illegal,refugees,immigrants license,welfare,money to vote for you

  • Eastcoastcoonass

    You need a ID for everything, and if your here illegally you don’t have a say.

  • RufusVonDufus

    “If you found a particularly wacky liberal?” Is there any other kind?

  • Richard Bagenstose

    hopefully the russia investigation will back fire on the democrats and expose them for their ties to russia

    • teachersaide

      Like Hillary okaying the SALE of US Uranium mines to Russia, & getting a BIG “donation” from the Canadian seller, for her “foundation”!

      • Richard Bagenstose

        don’t forget about the 500,000 bill got for a speech in russia and the 50 million given to the clinton foundation from russia

  • George E. LeFebvre

    Without requiring Voter ID Cards the Demoncraps will continue to use the only means that they have to win seats in congress, Governorships, and Presidential Elections in the future, is to use whatever means they can to squash a requirement for ID’s . I’ll take a step further and say that we need Voter ID’s with Photographs on them. in every CITY, STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTIONS. Then and only then can we stop all these illegals, DEAD People and people who vote multiple times to get the likes of EVIL HITLERY in office. I’m sure the investigation will come up with thousands of votes that HITLERY supposedly won are from PHONY and ILLEGAL voters or some of the voting machines were rigged to give her an edge.

  • billie

    Voter ID would be wonderful. Make it like a DV License but instill a bar code to scan when used and link all voting machines to show that number used, if more than once, nullify that number

  • CrustyOldGeezer

    Here’s an idea.

    ANY illegal caught voting in any election gets branded with a real life Branding Iron right in the middle of their forehead and booted out of the country with a $100,000 reward dead or alive if they ever set foot back in this country.

    Any citizen that votes illegally, ie: more than one ballot, under assumed names, or voting wit another persons ballot, IMMEDIATELY LOSES THE US CITIZENSHIP FOR LIFE!

    IF they cheapen another persons RIGHT to participate in an election, they deserve no ‘rights’ in their own name.

  • rick meek

    Hey – the dems are always calling for investigations – and covering up from them…….Time for trump to be totally transparent —— DECLASSIFY AND RELEASE ALL RECORDS OF ALL INVESTIGATIONS FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS…..

  • Salgal

    Go for it, President Trump. Expose them for what they are: CHEATS!

  • Craig Anderson

    The Dems wanted to investigate the Russian ties and all, you’d think they’d be all good on this, unless it’s going to make it harder for them to cheat and maybe find out even more about their operations and how they got all those votes.

    • Allen Shaw

      All charges no matter what need to be investigated by honest investigators. Not individuals who are bias.
      They should be neither Democrat, Republican nor any other party who had a vote.

  • Ken Mayton

    Of course they don’t want this commission…it will prove what they have been doing for years and make it so they are found lying again

  • Allen Shaw

    The word Democrat and Republican represent a large part of the population of this nation.

    What do you thing the independent voter count is and how do you think it is being impacted by the current actions of your congress and President.

    Do not spend too much time talking about fraud and Democratic fear when the independent are going to change the course of the future.

    This nation is split at least three ways the “Dem” the “Rep” and the “Ind”. That does not count the racial division “those whites who think “white only” and those whites who do not care about the difference just who is qualified. The white only group will vote into office anyone who is against other races, even if it destroys the nation. They are blind to the terrible impact of reducing this nation to a third or fourth grade nation.

    With such a multiple separation of race, religion, creed, ethnics, regional, and ethnics this nation is subject to blowing up into many parts, making us weak.

    Wake up!

    • teachersaide

      Please! There are also those of other skin colors who will ONLY vote for those of the same skin color, NOT just white! (Maxine Waters ring any bells?) For crying out loud- 95% of blacks voted for Obama! Lack of any job skills, other than community organizer, did NOT count in their world. Same thing for Rep. Guitterriz in Chicago area, who is Hispanic, and is in an overwhelmingly Hispanic district!

      • bttrap

        he belongs there no one else wants him we need term limits

      • Allen Shaw

        That is kind of a foolish statement when you give it some thought.

        Where did you get that figure?

        Now when you think that after 400 years of living in this nation without being allowed to have any high office the blacks could be allowed a little slack?

        How many whites voted for him? Why did so many whites vote for him twice?

        He was a phenomenon! There may never be another black President in a hundred years.

        The blacks want a black black president and the whites want a white black president.

        You see it is not going to work. The next oddity will be a Hispanic or Jew.

        • teachersaide

          I could care less that BHO was biracial- HE revealed himself, during the initial campaign, when he said, he wanted to “spread the wealth around”! AND, that is ALL he did- HIS signature ‘accomplishment”, ACA, was RULED by the Supreme Court to be “legal” as a TAX! ACA “screwed over” 85% of the American public, to “take care” of less than 10%. What was questionable,were those who voted for him, solely based on “race”, and NOT on his capabilities! BHO was more incompetent than Jimmy Carter, & that’s saying something! His “recovery” plans were all special interest projects for those who were in DEM controlled districts! HIS sense of urgency concerning making Muslims feel that they were part of the “modern world” with NASA outreach, (their primary directive from Obama!), netted ZIP! Our space program is dead in the water, WE have MORE people on WELFARE than at any time in the last 65 YEARS, Our National Debt is approaching 20 TRILLION DOLLARS, Buying power was down 7% during his presidency, Record highs in unemployment, ISIS & other terrorists had major increases in terrorist attacks WORLDWIDE ( while Obama refused to even SAY the words!), Our southern border was POROUS as a sieve & HE ordered OUR Border Patrol to “catch & release” illegal aliens captured at the border; HE tried to ram another illegal alien AMNESTY down OUR throats; Put lots of illegal aliens on WELFARE; LIED about Benghazi- WHERE did those “troops” that were supposed to ‘rescue’ our people in Benghazi, Ever end up? MARS? I think a lot of people voted for him for several reasons: #1, the MSM did NOT do their jobs- they GUSHED about BHO, there were NO hard questions, & virtually NO ‘back ground checks”; #2, A lot of people thought “finally” a “black man” to be president, and IF I don’t vote for him, I might consider myself a racist; #3, Many would NOT vote for Mitt Romney, because he was Mormon- it was admitted Publicly after the election. Apparently, Voting FOR a Muslim apologist was OK though; #4, MSM NEVER put Obama’s actions under the “microscope”, once he was in office (In SHARP contrast to current situation!)- I’m thinking “Fast & Furious”, IRS scandals, HRC’s private email server/deletions/LIES, HRC’S Fdn & “Pay for Play”donations to fdn in order to SEE HRC, Benghazi LIES , “red line in the sand’ in Syria, Black Lives Matter RIOTS & Police Officers assassinated, “Glorification” of Michael Brown (THUG, gang member, crook, who physically attacked a police officer!),& ALL HIS LIES about ACA/Obamacare! I really couldn’t care WHAT color president we get, as long as they are competent, and NOT a LYING CROOK! I’d have voted for Condoleeza Rice or Ben Carson in a heart beat. I would NOT vote for Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, Schumer, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Sherrod Brown, Maxine Waters, etc, etc, etc. AS a now retired “worker”, I really don’t need ANY MORE “socialists” who want to take What I worked hard for, so they can give it to people who make “poor life choices”!

  • disqus_BAvz0LV7zw

    All the illegal votes, and all other means that allow illegal voting like Soros voting machines must be replaced, and strict compliance be required. They must be gathered/assembled together as evidences to present that illegal voting has been rampant, thus rendering the election results not acceptable. The SC must decide.

    The election process needs to be cleaned up, procedures, and requirements streamlined, must be under control. This is to put integrity to our electoral process, otherwise, the democrat crooks will always win the election. Why have it at all if the results are have no credibility?

  • Sal Belardo

    If the a Democrat President started this commission (which they wouldn’t) because it would show voter fraud by Democrats! But since a Republican President is doing it the ACLU calls it a phony commission! The only thing phony is the constant Phony News by the Phony Media!

  • Libs R Loons

    Predictably, the ACLU jumps in to defend and protect the democrats’ illegal voter base, which is used to tilt elections in THEIR favor.
    But let’s not forget that key states were forced by court order to purge their voter rolls of illegals, dead people, non-residents, felons, cartoon characters, and people’s PETS who were registered to vote democrat, and just in time for the 2014 midterms.
    Of course Obama went on-camera and tried to feebly pass off the loss of democrat seats in 2014 to his “people” not getting out to vote in the midterms.
    Sore loser!

  • donl

    You need a license for driving, fishing, hunting, cutting hair, vending, etc; then why not Voting, which by the way far more important then the aforementioned. No Voter ID, No vote. ( If it were me: pay no taxes, No vote!! ).

    • ProudPilgrim

      Those that dont own property should not be able to vote on property taxes. Thise that don’t have taxable income should not be able to affect income taxes through voting either. Only wish it was fair. Democrats depend on freeloaders and those without morals or ethics to keep their party in power. That is how communism grows. The end result is facism and death like Venezuela is progressing to. This is the goal of Progressives.

      Watch obama become UN Secretary General with his facist goal of having the world worship and serve him.

  • buffalobob826

    It’s about time something is being done no matter what side you’re are on Republican or Democrat

  • Carl_in_California

    Hi “My Country”. So where do you live? I live in California and I love it here. Maybe you should come visit and see how it is… you seem very angry that I am so happy with my state and it’s government? I must ask you why it riles you up so much that a fellow citizen is happy and satisfied with how things are going and with the decision making that we have in our state? Why does that bother you so much? 😎😎😎Cheers!

    • ProudPilgrim

      Doesn’t bother me. I left Saratoga California 40 years ago. You can have it. Hope you can swim as it will get quite wet soon after the shaking.

      • Libs R Loons

        “Carl’s post reads like an illegal Mexican claiming to be a citizen.

        • ProudPilgrim

          Could be. I don’t recognize where I once lived. Beautiful place ruined by crazy socialists and entitled boarder crashers

          • ProudPilgrim

            Not necessarily Mexican. I own a business in Mexico and pay taxes there. Many great people and friends. Many of our current illegals are from South America and some are the crooks and scum from Mexico.

    • My country

      No I am not angry because you live there but you are an illegal ! I have been there many times over the years and seen propositions constantly be turned down because of the voter fraud that exists in that state .Seems California thinks illegals are too stupid to have to pass a drivers test or get a voter ID with their picture on it .Why do you Carl think that should be a right in your state ? I for one know that when it is allowed in California they think the rest of us will do the same thing .

  • kassa1

    Did anyone ever notice the Democrats you’re never brought to trial because the big money who owns these whores not allow it, just as they would not allow an investigation in to that kid who is a Democrat selling D&C stuff to WikiLeaks. The kid was berg and it was covered up because the cops were told to drop the matter and let it go, just as the investigation , For Hillary Clinton’s emails that she destroyed and destroyed it BlackBerries and destroyed computers to cover up that’s completely obstruction of justice and no one says a word we have no one on the right was got any guts.